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Fuji X100F

Discussion in 'X100F, X100T, X100S, X100, and X70' started by Mike Gorman, May 7, 2017.

  1. Shuffles

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    I love my X100F, but it is true that with glasses on it may be a little harder to see all the edges of the VF. So, I generally shoot without my reading glasses and adjust the diopter to my vision. Overall, I'd say the X100F's VF (both OVF and EVF) is excellent.

    I do wish we could change the color of the overlay on the OVF, though. Sometimes the white info can get lost inside a bright subject.
     
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    That shop is now long gone, it went when Jessops crashed!
     
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    :D:(
    I guess you need to go into London for best choice.
     
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    JK you are quite right, by the way the Uxbridge Jessops was very small, and if it wasn't made by Nikon or Canon they didn't stock it!
     
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    I still maintain that the VF of the X100F spoils what is indeed a cracking little camera, and I don't understand why, if Fuji can get the X-T1/2 right surely its not too much to ask for the same in an RF camera?

    And even Leica have recognised that and are boasting of an improved VF in the M10!
     
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    I tried an XPro-1 a year ago, and I could not use the OVF because of my astigmatism. If you also have astigmatism this could be the problem with the X100F. I have an XE-2 and it's VF is MUCH easier for me to see. I believe the XE-2 has a 23MM eye point compared to the 14MM of the XP-1? This makes a HUGE difference for someone with my glasses prescription. I believe the X100F has an eye point of ~15MM?
     
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    Mmmm...X100F has a dioptric correction so I believe 99% of people with glasses can adapt to it. Maybe there is a 1% of people who can't but in that case they can't with any camera. Maybe the member evokes the 92% only coverage but when I need 100%, I switch to EVF.
     
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    I wear glasses and I have an X100F and a Leica M.

    The eye relief on the Fuji is much better than the M. I've also tried the new M10, and although improved, it's still not as easy to see the framelines for the 35mm as it is on the Fuji.
     
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    Here is a comparison of Fujifilm cameras and their various viewfinder specs

    Camera Eyepoint (mm) EVF Size EVF Magnification
    X-Pro2 16 .48" .59x
    X-Pro1 14 .47" .6x
    X100T 15 .48" .65x
    X-T10 17.5 .39" .62x
    X-E2 23 .5" .64x
    X-T1 23 .5" .77
     
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    I think this is fair comment but I do wonder if the dioptre adjustment for the Fujis needs to be enlarged to +/- 5 diopters rather than the more limited +2 /-4 diopters in the X-T2, or +1 /-2 for the X100.
    I dont know what the X100F offers.
     
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    Same as X100.
     
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    I agree with the point made by the OP. I bought the X100F, having had the X100S, and having tried the X100T in Jessops. I found the viewfinder on both to be acceptable, whilst wearing my specs, and I assumed that the X100F would have a similar eyepoint. When I received it, it did not; something had been altered, even though the specifications are similar on paper. I therefore bought the X-Pro2, and it is better.

    Another post above also mentions adjusting the dioptre, and that the dioptres on both the X100F and the X-Pro2 are the same; they are not, as the X-Pro2 allows for a minus 4 to plus 2 adjustment, whilst the X100F allows minus 2 to plus 2. I can therefore use the X-Pro2 with or without my specs, and I prefer without, whereas I'd have to use the X100F with my specs, and lose some of the viewfinder.

    So, in my opinion, the OP is spot on! But, there are so many factors involved that it is not possible for a definitive statement to be made in relation to the experience, as some have sought to do, above.
     
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    While it's true that the X100F has better eye relief and is a better finder in general compared to the X-Pro2, it's still nowhere near as comfortable to use and as easy to see "the entire picture" as with the X-T2/X-T1 viewfinder in "normal" mode for people using glasses, and specifically glasses that might stick a bit out from your face, or, if that person has deep eye sockets.

    Also, the X100F is usable with polarized sunglasses. You can still see the frame-lines and info overlay. The X-Pro2 doesn't work well with polarized sunglasses at all. The X-T2 and X-T1 uses OLED displays, so they are perfectly fine with polarized sunglasses.
     
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    That's got nothing to do with eyerelief. It's simply because the Leica M has a MUCH higher magnification ratio. Try looking through the Leica VF and X100F side-by-side. The world (or scene) is A LOT smaller in the X100F viewfinder than in the Leica. The Leica VF almost maintains real life size, whereas the X100F VF zooms things out (thus makes things smaller) by A LOT.

    This is what makes it more difficult to see the 35mm framelines on a Leica M, not the eye-relief.
     
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    Not all designs work for everyone. This one happens to work for me and not for you. Life is a buffet. Feel free to make your choices and try not to take away from the choices of others.
     
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    Thank you, you are of course correct.

    What I was trying to get across was simply that I find it easier to see the framelines with my glasses on using the X100F than I do with the M.
     
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    Good thing no one is forcing you to buy the camera, eh?

    Not every camera is meant for every person for one reason or another. Life will go on.
     
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    I have the X100F, wear glasses and can see all of the viewfinder, both OVF and EVF.
     
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    Original X100 owner and glasses wearer - I've never ever had a problem with vignetting. It was for me one of the major attractions of the camera, being able to see 100% of the VF with my glasses on...

    Not being funny, but to the OP - have you ever checked that your glasses are the right distance from the eyes for you? Reason being I have a good friend who runs a spectacles business and he maintains many people have ill-fitting specs. Most high street opticians do not correctly adjust specs for optimal lens distance and arm length.

    Might be worth considering as there are many speccy X100 series owners who have no problem with the excellent VF on the camera. Seems a bit of a hollow criticism to throw at an excellent camera...
     
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    A couple of times it has been mentioned the x100f has a better viewfinder than the X Pro 2. Can anyone expand on that? Isn't the evf refresh rate supposed to be better on the Pro?
     

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